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#1 02-01-2008 21:07:37

kepa
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Landscapes & HDR

just wondering, i have looked a landscape pics in this site, and yes many of those looks very nice. But too many looks like HDR picture ? Is it true that many of you likes to play with photoshop etc. or is this just my imagination ?

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#2 02-01-2008 21:11:59

Alari Kivisaar
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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Milliseid pilte täpsemalt mõtled? Mõned näited näiteks. Huvituks isegi.

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#3 02-01-2008 21:18:33

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#4 02-01-2008 21:34:01

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Hehee, see on minu pilt smile Ma pole kunagi HDR-i isegi katsetanud. Siin on kasutatud digikiilu.

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#5 02-01-2008 21:37:53

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Ootan veel näiteid.
Selle konkreetne pildi saab ilma photoshopita küll ju "valmistada".

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#6 02-01-2008 21:39:40

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

..ah. autor jõudis ette:)

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#7 02-01-2008 21:40:47

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

kiilu = Polarisationfilter ? Colors are just un-natural for my eye..but picture is very nice. Anyway this HDR is very interesting, but must be announced if pic is made using this method. Just my 10 cents.

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#8 02-01-2008 21:41:35

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Here is 17 page tutorial if interested....

http://www.naturescapes.net/072006/rh0706_1.htm

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#9 02-01-2008 21:44:01

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Polarisatsioon + kiil.

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#10 02-01-2008 21:45:38

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

alari kirjutas:

Polarisatsioon + kiil.

What is this Kiil ? Vabandan et mu eesti keel on väga halb.

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#11 02-01-2008 21:51:04

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Kiil is something like that http://www.photopoint.ee/toode.php?id=14640 but made in photoshop. Vabanda, minu inglise keel on väga halb smile

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#12 02-01-2008 21:52:41

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

He means grad filter by "kiil".

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#13 02-01-2008 21:54:35

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Ooh, selge smile

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#14 02-01-2008 22:00:22

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Küsiks siin kohe mis te arvate HDR-ist? Nii eetilises või subjektiivses mõtes.
Iseenesest ju natuke enamat kui lihtsalt digikiil. Et kas siis puhtakujuline töötlus või läheb veel looduspildi kirja?

Fire at will. smile


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#15 02-01-2008 22:15:35

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Btw, kepa, you said it would be nice to mention HDR - actually we have had many discussions over HDR and so called digitally graduated neutral density filter, and many of us keep mention if something like these have been used. You may also take a look here: http://looduspilt.ee/foorum/viewtopic.php?id=2296
A good example of using no HDR but three filters is here: http://looduspilt.ee/index.php?page=pilt&id=11116
Have you seen timecatcher.com photos? If not, you should, 'cause there are many marvellous landscapes and helpful information of used techniques (filters etc).

Eemal

 

#16 02-01-2008 23:45:52

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Mariann kirjutas:

Btw, kepa, you said it would be nice to mention HDR - actually we have had many discussions over HDR and so called digitally graduated neutral density filter, and many of us keep mention if something like these have been used. You may also take a look here: http://looduspilt.ee/foorum/viewtopic.php?id=2296
A good example of using no HDR but three filters is here: http://looduspilt.ee/index.php?page=pilt&id=11116
Have you seen timecatcher.com photos? If not, you should, 'cause there are many marvellous landscapes and helpful information of used techniques (filters etc).

My point was no attack to anyone, but in general i think its nice if told when things like that has been made into picture. In etical, i dont think those (HDR) are a natural pictures anymore and im bit sceptic also for photoshop filters used in. But its digital time right ? wink

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#17 02-01-2008 23:49:23

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Btw. marvelous picture ... http://looduspilt.ee/index.php?page=pilt&id=11116

But please talk about your toughts about HDR and other digitally re-made pictures.

Eemal

 

#18 02-01-2008 23:52:08

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Damn, just looked that link about HDR and in forum is not edit possibility for my message , sorry. Im quiet now ...

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#19 03-01-2008 00:02:28

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

We do not consider Photoshop filters and other digital manipulations (e.g. erasing critical objects) as actual nature photos. Although we do accept using physical grad filters and others (uv, pola, skylight, etc) that improve the possibility to create natural final photos.

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#20 03-01-2008 00:11:36

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Mariann kirjutas:

We do not consider Photoshop filters and other digital manipulations (e.g. erasing critical objects) as actual nature photos. Although we do accept using physical grad filters and others (uv, pola, skylight, etc) that improve the possibility to create natural final photos.

Good to hear smile

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#21 03-01-2008 00:39:28

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

smile Sorry for forgetting one more thing that I should add to my last post as all the discussion begun beacause of the term "digikiil" used by Alari. By digital graduated neutral density filter (digikiil) we mean digital grad filter. It's basically the same thing as the physical grad filter and it hasn't anything to do with Photoshop effect filters.

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#22 03-01-2008 01:14:58

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Muideks, kepa, tore, et tagasi oled smile

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#23 03-01-2008 02:41:10

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Re: Landscapes & HDR

Võtaks siin sama seisukoha, mis Juhan selles arutelus .
Kuna inimsilma dünaamiline ulatus on ikka tunduvalt suurem kui digisensori oma siis HDR õigustab end niikaua kui püütakse jäljendada looduslikku olukorda. Enamasti saab sama teha kiilfiltritega kuid mõnedel ekstreemjuhtudel on HDR lihtsam.

I wolud take the same standpoint as Juhan in this thread.
Because the human eyes dynamic range is much greater the any digital camera HDR was its uses as long as a truthful representation of the natural situation is strived for. In most cases the same can be used with grad filters but in some extreme cases HDR is easyer to use.

Ei teagi enam mis keeles kirjutada. smile


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